Pioneer Creek (FR 485) in NM -- Camping Rules & Access
Pioneer Creek (FR 485) in NM
Road corridorCarson NF, Questa Ranger District
11 mi from Questa
Maps 8,641 ft
Camping permission not confirmed
Miles 0–0.3 cross land the Forest Service doesn't manage; camping there needs the landowner's permission. Miles 0–0.8 are inside the Town of Red River, whose rules apply there.
Motor-vehicle season 5/1–12/31Stay limit: 14 days · within 45 days
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Road Access
Difficult
- All 3.4 miles of this road are maintained for high-clearance vehicles.
- Near Black Mountain.
- Estimated climb: 1,500 ft over 3.4 miles, with sustained grades near 16% and pitches to 21%.
Setting
Fairly secluded
- Well separated here, with the nearest through road 1.2 miles off.
- Sawmill Mountain stands 2,327 ft above the map pin, 1.6 miles northwest.
- A pond lies 0.1 mi off.
- Estimated night sky: Bortle 4, a rural sky with a glow on the horizon.
Rules
- Most of the Carson National Forest is open to dispersed camping, which is when you camp away from developed facilities and associated amenities (e.g. bathrooms, picnic tables, fire rings). This includes car camping and backpacking.…Permits are currently not required for dispersed camping, including for backpacking or entering wilderness areas.
- Camping rules
Climate averages
October normals 32–57°F, 1.8″ precipitation. Monthly averages, PRISM 1991–2020.